Tabetha Jones insists that she can call up the website where it says that Phoenix Fire Publishingis an LLC “Quite easily” and chides us for being unable.
Here’s the link to the Texas Secretary of State searchable database of taxable entities, where it shows no Phoenix Fire publishing.
There are a few businesses that have the words Phoenix Fire in them, but unless Tabetha has started doing Security work, engineering or restoration, hers isn’t there.
Here’s the website for the Secretary of State in West Virginia’s searchable database for taxable legal entities, where there are ZERO results found with the words Phoenix Fire.
I don’t know what web site she’s looking at, but it’s neither one of the official ones that would actually prove that her company is legit. I guess we’ll have to keep on waiting for her to post that link.
To settle the matter once and for all, I called the Secretaries of State in both Texas and West Virginia. I asked several questions, the answers to which appear below:
1) How long after a business files does it take for an LLC to become official?
TX: After filing form 205 online, it takes 3-4 business days. Tax paperwork not included. If hard copy is snail mailed, maybe a week an a half.
WV: If it’s filed online, it’ll take 3 to four days, including tax stuff. If it’s mailed in, maybe a week or week and a half, and that doesn’t include filing for tax stuff. That’s separate.
Cost: $100 to the Secretary of State’s office, and $30 for Taxes.
2) How long after that will an LLC appear in the taxable entity database?
TX: It only takes a couple of days for the paperwork to be scanned and viewable.
WV: It’s immediate.
NOWHERE does it take months for any part of the process. Ever. For any reason.
3) Is it illegal for any company to advertise itself as being an LLC in your state without actually being one?
TX: She wasn’t sure about this one, but she doesn’t know of any businesses that do that. I mean, why would they?
WV: She wasn’t sure about this one. But she did say that if any business advertises themselves as an LLC without being one, they’re only hurting themselves, because if somebody sues them, they don’t have the protections of being an LLC. If anybody sues, it’s the owners that take the hit.
What I can tell you is that even if it doesn’t constitute a criminal offense (which is still in debate), any author, model, artist or consumer that’s been suckered in by a company falsely advertising itself as an LLC when it isn’t one can most definitely sue in civil court. And since the company isn’t the LLC it claims to be, it’s the owners that take the hit. If Tabetha’s name is on the paperwork, she takes the hit herself. If Jackie’s name is on the paperwork with or instead of Tabetha’s, well, then, it sucks to be her, doesn’t it?
4) And finally, has any company called Phoenix Fire Publishing filed to become an LLC in your state within the last 6 months?
TX: There are other businesses with the word ‘Phoenix Fire” in them, but no Phoenix Fire Publishing.
WV: Nope. There are NO BUSINESSES NAMED PHOENIX FIRE PUBLISHING in WV.
But don’t just take my word for it. Call the Secretaries of State yourself and ask them the same questions.
Texas: (512) 463-5555 There’s something of a wait time to talk to somebody, especially during peak business hours, and who you’ll get is luck of the draw. But they’ll answer any questions you’ve got.
West Virginia: (304) 558-6000 They’ll answer any questions you have.
Once and for all, PHOENIX FIRE PUBLISHING IS NOT AN LLC. Period.